Noel Fogelman: Isles begin four-game road trip in Florida

tough week ahead.... really need this game tonight. 3rd line needs to pick it up...

hard to beat tampa in tampa again and the pens are playing way better 87 is really playing good again

i am asking you a simple question, what goalie out there is an upgrade to the two we have? would that team move that goalie if they are in a playoff position? why would you trade for a backup to one of our current keepers if they cant play well now? they need a starter if they are going to improve the position so what team has a goalie thats their backup thats better than our two goalies? when is the last time a goalie has been traded mid season? it rarely happens because if a teams starter is hurt they need a dependable back up and why most all goalie moves are made in the off season. I dont care what your opinion on pulock is it doesnt matter its what the coaches think and clearly its not very good. he has a great shot but what else? pelach makes mistakes but is better defensively and this team can already score what they need is to stop the other team from scoring. also we all have opinions on here its not some challenge to you or a fight so relax. maybe people ask you questions to your statements because this isnt fantasy hockey where players are traded jut because and we would like to know who you suggest and why and if its even plausible

From the last page;
First off how is Pulock even relevant to this conversation? You bought him up obviously to try and rattle my cage like I give a (frank)
Two totally different debates with zero in common and pretty obvious an attempt to misdirect or somehow piss me off which is funny. Again, I'm not the defender of Pulock if you don't see the positive in actually developing a prospect that's fine by me I can care less.
As for the rest of your questions I told you to simply read my post which you obviously didn't. You're just yammering away to try and prove some nonscenial point. I said you never know who will become available through a season which you dont. Maybe a team falls out of contention? Maybe a goaltender under performs with a good resume? Maybe a rookie out performs a veteran and he becomes expendable? It's literally endless and we've all seen it over the course of a season. How about this. How about we make a bet that a goaltender becomes available before seasons end that is better than both Greiss and Halak? What do you say?

As far as Pelech goes he's been pretty bad for a while now on our 2nd pairing of all places and again wtf does this have to do with anything?
Listen, I know you're a Snow fan and defend and point out every little minute thing that can somehow been misconstrued into a positive but saying Lehner and Johnson are available so there's no options potentially for trades ever is borderline laughable
Also, you're smart enough to know this you just want to argue to be right which you know you arent

i am asking you a simple question, what goalie out there is an upgrade to the two we have? would that team move that goalie if they are in a playoff position? why would you trade for a backup to one of our current keepers if they cant play well now? they need a starter if they are going to improve the position so what team has a goalie thats their backup thats better than our two goalies? when is the last time a goalie has been traded mid season? it rarely happens because if a teams starter is hurt they need a dependable back up and why most all goalie moves are made in the off season. I dont care what your opinion on pulock is it doesnt matter its what the coaches think and clearly its not very good. he has a great shot but what else? pelach makes mistakes but is better defensively and this team can already score what they need is to stop the other team from scoring. also we all have opinions on here its not some challenge to you or a fight so relax. maybe people ask you questions to your statements because this isnt fantasy hockey where players are traded jut because and we would like to know who you suggest and why and if its even plausible

From the last page;
First off how is Pulock even relevant to this conversation? You bought him up obviously to try and rattle my cage like I give a (frank)
Two totally different debates with zero in common and pretty obvious an attempt to misdirect or somehow piss me off which is funny. Again, I'm not the defender of Pulock if you don't see the positive in actually developing a prospect that's fine by me I can care less.
As for the rest of your questions I told you to simply read my post which you obviously didn't. You're just yammering away to try and prove some nonscenial point. I said you never know who will become available through a season which you dont. Maybe a team falls out of contention? Maybe a goaltender under performs with a good resume? Maybe a rookie out performs a veteran and he becomes expendable? It's literally endless and we've all seen it over the course of a season. How about this. How about we make a bet that a goaltender becomes available before seasons end that is better than both Greiss and Halak? What do you say?

As far as Pelech goes he's been pretty bad for a while now on our 2nd pairing of all places and again wtf does this have to do with anything?
Listen, I know you're a Snow fan and defend and point out every little minute thing that can somehow been misconstrued into a positive but saying Lehner and Johnson are available so there's no options potentially for trades ever is borderline laughable
Also, you're smart enough to know this you just want to argue to be right which you know you arent
- Cptmjl

i am asking you a simple question, what goalie out there is an upgrade to the two we have? would that team move that goalie if they are in a playoff position? why would you trade for a backup to one of our current keepers if they cant play well now? they need a starter if they are going to improve the position so what team has a goalie thats their backup thats better than our two goalies? when is the last time a goalie has been traded mid season? it rarely happens because if a teams starter is hurt they need a dependable back up and why most all goalie moves are made in the off season. I dont care what your opinion on pulock is it doesnt matter its what the coaches think and clearly its not very good. he has a great shot but what else? pelach makes mistakes but is better defensively and this team can already score what they need is to stop the other team from scoring. also we all have opinions on here its not some challenge to you or a fight so relax. maybe people ask you questions to your statements because this isnt fantasy hockey where players are traded jut because and we would like to know who you suggest and why and if its even plausible

From the last page;
First off how is Pulock even relevant to this conversation? You bought him up obviously to try and rattle my cage like I give a (frank)
Two totally different debates with zero in common and pretty obvious an attempt to misdirect or somehow piss me off which is funny. Again, I'm not the defender of Pulock if you don't see the positive in actually developing a prospect that's fine by me I can care less.
As for the rest of your questions I told you to simply read my post which you obviously didn't. You're just yammering away to try and prove some nonscenial point. I said you never know who will become available through a season which you dont. Maybe a team falls out of contention? Maybe a goaltender under performs with a good resume? Maybe a rookie out performs a veteran and he becomes expendable? It's literally endless and we've all seen it over the course of a season. How about this. How about we make a bet that a goaltender becomes available before seasons end that is better than both Greiss and Halak? What do you say?

As far as Pelech goes he's been pretty bad for a while now on our 2nd pairing of all places and again wtf does this have to do with anything?
Listen, I know you're a Snow fan and defend and point out every little minute thing that can somehow been misconstrued into a positive but saying Lehner and Johnson are available so there's no options potentially for trades ever is borderline laughable
Also, you're smart enough to know this you just want to argue to be right which you know you arent
- Cptmjl

i am asking you a simple question, what goalie out there is an upgrade to the two we have? would that team move that goalie if they are in a playoff position? why would you trade for a backup to one of our current keepers if they cant play well now? they need a starter if they are going to improve the position so what team has a goalie thats their backup thats better than our two goalies? when is the last time a goalie has been traded mid season? it rarely happens because if a teams starter is hurt they need a dependable back up and why most all goalie moves are made in the off season. I dont care what your opinion on pulock is it doesnt matter its what the coaches think and clearly its not very good. he has a great shot but what else? pelach makes mistakes but is better defensively and this team can already score what they need is to stop the other team from scoring. also we all have opinions on here its not some challenge to you or a fight so relax. maybe people ask you questions to your statements because this isnt fantasy hockey where players are traded jut because and we would like to know who you suggest and why and if its even plausible

From the last page;
First off how is Pulock even relevant to this conversation? You bought him up obviously to try and rattle my cage like I give a (frank)
Two totally different debates with zero in common and pretty obvious an attempt to misdirect or somehow piss me off which is funny. Again, I'm not the defender of Pulock if you don't see the positive in actually developing a prospect that's fine by me I can care less.
As for the rest of your questions I told you to simply read my post which you obviously didn't. You're just yammering away to try and prove some nonscenial point. I said you never know who will become available through a season which you dont. Maybe a team falls out of contention? Maybe a goaltender under performs with a good resume? Maybe a rookie out performs a veteran and he becomes expendable? It's literally endless and we've all seen it over the course of a season. How about this. How about we make a bet that a goaltender becomes available before seasons end that is better than both Greiss and Halak? What do you say?

As far as Pelech goes he's been pretty bad for a while now on our 2nd pairing of all places and again wtf does this have to do with anything?
Listen, I know you're a Snow fan and defend and point out every little minute thing that can somehow been misconstrued into a positive but saying Lehner and Johnson are available so there's no options potentially for trades ever is borderline laughable
Also, you're smart enough to know this you just want to argue to be right which you know you arent
- Cptmjl

better team defense leads to better goaltending

Noel you are pretty quick to shoot down a Moulson reunion.

I do like the music chairs Isles defense though.

better team defense leads to better goaltending
- nyislsbossy

Agreed but the both of them are playing poorly none the less. I believe one of them will start playing better most likely. Hopefully.

- YuenglingJagr

That was half copy and pasted

i am asking you a simple question, what goalie out there is an upgrade to the two we have? would that team move that goalie if they are in a playoff position? why would you trade for a backup to one of our current keepers if they cant play well now? they need a starter if they are going to improve the position so what team has a goalie thats their backup thats better than our two goalies? when is the last time a goalie has been traded mid season? it rarely happens because if a teams starter is hurt they need a dependable back up and why most all goalie moves are made in the off season. I dont care what your opinion on pulock is it doesnt matter its what the coaches think and clearly its not very good. he has a great shot but what else? pelach makes mistakes but is better defensively and this team can already score what they need is to stop the other team from scoring. also we all have opinions on here its not some challenge to you or a fight so relax. maybe people ask you questions to your statements because this isnt fantasy hockey where players are traded jut because and we would like to know who you suggest and why and if its even plausible

From the last page;
First off how is Pulock even relevant to this conversation? You bought him up obviously to try and rattle my cage like I give a (frank)
Two totally different debates with zero in common and pretty obvious an attempt to misdirect or somehow piss me off which is funny. Again, I'm not the defender of Pulock if you don't see the positive in actually developing a prospect that's fine by me I can care less.
As for the rest of your questions I told you to simply read my post which you obviously didn't. You're just yammering away to try and prove some nonscenial point. I said you never know who will become available through a season which you dont. Maybe a team falls out of contention? Maybe a goaltender under performs with a good resume? Maybe a rookie out performs a veteran and he becomes expendable? It's literally endless and we've all seen it over the course of a season. How about this. How about we make a bet that a goaltender becomes available before seasons end that is better than both Greiss and Halak? What do you say?

As far as Pelech goes he's been pretty bad for a while now on our 2nd pairing of all places and again wtf does this have to do with anything?
Listen, I know you're a Snow fan and defend and point out every little minute thing that can somehow been misconstrued into a positive but saying Lehner and Johnson are available so there's no options potentially for trades ever is borderline laughable
Also, you're smart enough to know this you just want to argue to be right which you know you arent
- Cptmjl

I'll bet you that a better goalie isn't available or traded. Name the last big in season goalie swap........right you can't. You can twist and turn tbis whatever way you want but it's pretty clear you have no idea what your talking about. Let's assume you're correct though, who are we trading for this missing starter? Is another team in the east going to trade him to us? It would most likely have to be a team out west not in direct competition with us. But you're probably right someone will trade a goalie at the deadline. Mason for dyubnek and Luongo a few years back and reimer last year are the biggest ones and reimer isn't better than either goalie on the roster and greiss outplayed Luongo in the playoffs. Last year Miller mason and neurvirth where the guys most talked about none are really and upgrade. You're looking at a lateral move at best. I will bet you these are the two goalies that are here all year furthermore greiss previous 5 games were all wins and he played very well he had a stinker and halak played very well his last 2 games and in relief last game. Both are playing better and a top 4 d man is what they need

- Vukota

- Vukota

This fight really made me angry as I ruined my pink gloves

This fight really made me angry as I ruined my pink gloves
- Upstate_isles

I thought that was Cpt. wife kicking your a55!

I'll bet you that a better goalie isn't available or traded. Name the last big in season goalie swap........right you can't. You can twist and turn tbis whatever way you want but it's pretty clear you have no idea what your talking about. Let's assume you're correct though, who are we trading for this missing starter? Is another team in the east going to trade him to us? It would most likely have to be a team out west not in direct competition with us. But you're probably right someone will trade a goalie at the deadline. Mason for dyubnek and Luongo a few years back and reimer last year are the biggest ones and reimer isn't better than either goalie on the roster and greiss outplayed Luongo in the playoffs. Last year Miller mason and neurvirth where the guys most talked about none are really and upgrade. You're looking at a lateral move at best. I will bet you these are the two goalies that are here all year
- Upstate_isles

Hold on let me see if I can find my crystal ball and take a look for ya

Nobody said these wouldn't be the two goalies we have at seasons end.
Nobody said there are goalies available now.

Yammer, yammer, yammer away.

There it is again.

I commented on you saying Lehner and Johnson are available and that's it. May as well pack our bags and grab the ball and go home. I said that's ridiculous don't try and turn this into something else that's exactly how it went down
Nobody knows what is going to happen over the course of a season which was my point. Not even 7 with all of his hockey knowledge because he plays in a beer league

I thought that was Cpt. wife kicking your a55!
- nyisles7

I simply posted these were the guys being offered and that's about the quality that will be offered not going to be and keepers out there that are an upgrade then you spouted off about all these possibilities and I asked who you thought would be out there and your response was you have no idea and time will tell. In reality the point system doesn't really knock many teams out of contention and most teams won't be moving anyone mid season. Simple question who you thought could be moved and would be an upgrade but you deflected the question and came back with your own b.s.

I'll bet you that a better goalie isn't available or traded. Name the last big in season goalie swap........right you can't. You can twist and turn tbis whatever way you want but it's pretty clear you have no idea what your talking about. Let's assume you're correct though, who are we trading for this missing starter? Is another team in the east going to trade him to us? It would most likely have to be a team out west not in direct competition with us. But you're probably right someone will trade a goalie at the deadline. Mason for dyubnek and Luongo a few years back and reimer last year are the biggest ones and reimer isn't better than either goalie on the roster and greiss outplayed Luongo in the playoffs. Last year Miller mason and neurvirth where the guys most talked about none are really and upgrade. You're looking at a lateral move at best. I will bet you these are the two goalies that are here all year furthermore greiss previous 5 games were all wins and he played very well he had a stinker and halak played very well his last 2 games and in relief last game. Both are playing better and a top 4 d man is what they need
- Upstate_isles

Neuvirth for Johnson

For real though I wanted Halak this offseason (along with another player who shall remain nameless...but trust me it is a fair deal)

Cappy curse, isles lose 4-2 and start a new losing streak ...

i am asking you a simple question, what goalie out there is an upgrade to the two we have? would that team move that goalie if they are in a playoff position? why would you trade for a backup to one of our current keepers if they cant play well now? they need a starter if they are going to improve the position so what team has a goalie thats their backup thats better than our two goalies? when is the last time a goalie has been traded mid season? it rarely happens because if a teams starter is hurt they need a dependable back up and why most all goalie moves are made in the off season. I dont care what your opinion on pulock is it doesnt matter its what the coaches think and clearly its not very good. he has a great shot but what else? pelach makes mistakes but is better defensively and this team can already score what they need is to stop the other team from scoring. also we all have opinions on here its not some challenge to you or a fight so relax. maybe people ask you questions to your statements because this isnt fantasy hockey where players are traded jut because and we would like to know who you suggest and why and if its even plausible

From the last page;
First off how is Pulock even relevant to this conversation? You bought him up obviously to try and rattle my cage like I give a (frank)
Two totally different debates with zero in common and pretty obvious an attempt to misdirect or somehow piss me off which is funny. Again, I'm not the defender of Pulock if you don't see the positive in actually developing a prospect that's fine by me I can care less.
As for the rest of your questions I told you to simply read my post which you obviously didn't. You're just yammering away to try and prove some nonscenial point. I said you never know who will become available through a season which you dont. Maybe a team falls out of contention? Maybe a goaltender under performs with a good resume? Maybe a rookie out performs a veteran and he becomes expendable? It's literally endless and we've all seen it over the course of a season. How about this. How about we make a bet that a goaltender becomes available before seasons end that is better than both Greiss and Halak? What do you say?

As far as Pelech goes he's been pretty bad for a while now on our 2nd pairing of all places and again wtf does this have to do with anything?
Listen, I know you're a Snow fan and defend and point out every little minute thing that can somehow been misconstrued into a positive but saying Lehner and Johnson are available so there's no options potentially for trades ever is borderline laughable
Also, you're smart enough to know this you just want to argue to be right which you know you arent
- Cptmjl

U had me at simple question....

I simply posted these were the guys being offered and that's about the quality that will be offered not going to be and keepers out there that are an upgrade then you spouted off about all these possibilities and I asked who you thought would be out there and your response was you have no idea and time will tell. In reality the point system doesn't really knock many teams out of contention and most teams won't be moving anyone mid season. Simple question who you thought could be moved and would be an upgrade but you deflected the question and came back with your own b.s.
- Upstate_isles

No I didn't. All I said was who knows and pointed out that nobody knows because we don't. That was it. Next thing you know you're talking about Pelech, Pulock, what better goaltenders are available, etc. That's exactly what happened. Go back and look. Who pissed in your cheerios Jesus (frank)ing christ

- Cptmjl

He's trying to bait the fight he's happy he's not the one in it

Hold on let me see if I can find my crystal ball and take a look for ya

Nobody said these wouldn't be the two goalies we have at seasons end.
Nobody said there are goalies available now.

Yammer, yammer, yammer away.

There it is again.

I commented on you saying Lehner and Johnson are available and that's it. May as well pack our bags and grab the ball and go home. I said that's ridiculous don't try and turn this into something else that's exactly how it went down
Nobody knows what is going to happen over the course of a season which was my point. Not even 7 with all of his hockey knowledge because he plays in a beer league
- Cptmjl

He's trying to bait the fight he's happy he's not the one in it
- Upstate_isles

Oh I know how he operates. Check your pm mailbox I'm sure there's something from him in there

- nyisles7